Jesus is not God, but has God like qualities.

Good job on your website. I am a Mormon, and just so you know we all lived in a pre-existance. Jesus too. He did create the earth, and God over saw the plans and construction. So therefor Christ was, is, and always will be and did create the earth. However, he is not God, but has God like qualities

But good job on your website. Besides that, I agree with everything that you say. It's the only one that I found that doesn't do any religious bashing. Just does what it's made to do. Helping people.

My response is in Green:

I hate to tell you but you are wrong. Jesus is and always has been God.

It might surprise you but there were many times in Scripture where Jesus claimed to be God. I will agree that you won't find the words; "I am God" but you will find many other things which mean the same thing.

Jesus was crucified, do you know why? Because the Pharisees demanded that Rome crucify Him, and the reason is because they claimed He was a blasphemer. They claimed this because they said He said He was God. (John 10:28-33 NIV) I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are one." Again the Jews picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God." There was no doubt in the Jews mind that Jesus was claiming to be God. (Matthew 26:63-66 NRSV) But Jesus was silent. Then the high priest said to him, "I put you under oath before the living God, tell us if you are the Messiah, the Son of God." {64} Jesus said to him, "You have said so. But I tell you, From now on you will see the Son of Man seated at the right hand of Power and coming on the clouds of heaven." {65} Then the high priest tore his clothes and said, "He has blasphemed! Why do we still need witnesses? You have now heard his blasphemy. {66} What is your verdict?" They answered, "He deserves death."

The Jews knew that only God can forgive sins, so they understood what Jesus was saying when He healed the lame man: (Matthew 9:2 NIV) Some men brought to him a paralytic, lying on a mat. When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, "Take heart, son; your sins are forgiven." In effect He was claiming here to be God and to have the right to forgive sins, which belonged to God alone.

When Moses saw the burning bush, and God talked to him and told him to go to Egypt, Moses asked who should he say sent him. God answered: (Exo 3:14 NIV) God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.'" Now look at what Jesus said (John 8:58 NIV) "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" A man could not claim that, Abraham was born thousands of years before Jesus. The wording itself tells us that Jesus was claiming that He was the great I AM, or in other words God.

Could Jesus have been just a good man and God loved Him enough to promote Him to God status? No, would you call a chronic liar a good man? Of course not, but if Jesus was not really God then He had to be either a liar or a crazy person, because He kept claiming to be God.

Okay so He was God, but does that mean He was not really a human? No again, He was both. He came to earth as a human but remained God. Why is this important? Well for one we are told that this is how we are to judge if a teaching comes from God or not. (1 John 4:2 NIV) This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God.

Every time someone denies that Jesus was God and came to earth as a human being, they are denying our salvation. There is no other way to obtain forgiveness from God except to accept Jesus Christ as your savior. So if you don't believe He was who He said He was, you are in effect saying that He cannot forgive you and therefore, you are doomed.

Ralph

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