Don't Homosexuals have the right not to be hated by the church?

I spent about an hour reading some of your responses to people of all different opinions. I must say I enjoyed many of your replies. I agree with most of what you say. However, I feel I'd like to express my feelings on one subject, homosexuality. I am not gay, I am very heterosexual. I just have known many gay people in my past 20 years of being alive and I have never encountered one who said they chose to be what they are. Although the bible says in Leviticus 18:22, "Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin." Isn't all sins the same? Again in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, it mentions homosexuals as not ever being able to have a share in the kingdom of heaven. But that same verse sums all the people in the world. Now if we say homosexuality is a sin, and assuming this is correct. What makes those people different than a regular sinning man. Even the most religious sin. So why do most Christians condemn homosexuals to be almost the worse of sinners. And the reason why I say lets assume it's a sin is because many of those I've known have no control over what their bodies feel. OF course me and you will never really know what the truth is, but I think its very unfair the way they are treated. If ANY human being is a sinner, and they have faith in Jesus Christ with all their heart, confess their sins, then they have a right to live without being hated by the church. If they are any more of a sinner, then so am I by being greedy and sex hungry towards the opposite sex. All of this is not written to you to change your mind (or mine), I just wanted to express my feelings on that subject. Thanks for listening and please write back if you have the time.

My response is in Green:

Thanks for writing me. I must admit I am not sure what you were reading on my page that would make you think that I hate homosexuals. I do hate the sin of homosexuality just as I hate the sin of lying, stealing, adultery, etc...

I will try to start at the beginning of your message. You said that in your 20 years of life you have never met anyone who said they wanted to be a homosexual. Okay, I will take that at face value. Have you ever met anyone who claimed they wanted to be an alcoholic? How about a child molester? How about a liar? Probably not, but these are all sins too. My point is this, we are all born into this world with sinful hearts. Some of us will struggle with homosexual sins, some with lying, some with heterosexual sins, some with stealing, some with a combination of all of these.

Sin is sin in God's eyes. It does not matter what scale we grade on, it is still sin. We often look at lying as being less of a sin than say being a homosexual, but that is not true. God says:(Ezekiel 18:4 NIV) For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son--both alike belong to me. The soul who sins is the one who will die. Notice God did not tell which sins we would die for, that is because we will die for any and all sins. So even if we think one is worse than the other, in God's eyes they all deserve death.

You mentioned 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, but have you really read it and understand it? Let me quote it here:(1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NIV) Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders {10} nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. You would have a point if the only sin mentioned was homosexuality but it is not. This passage is meant to show multiple sins, all sins... But unless you read the very next verse you will not get what Paul was saying, so let me continue: (1 Corinthians 6:11 NIV) And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. See Paul was talking to Christians; people who were on their way to heaven to spend eternity with God.

How can that be? How can these people be going to heaven if they were sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexual offenders, thieves, greedy, drunkards, slanderers and swindlers? Simple, they were washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. That is the same way a person with those kinds of sins will get to heaven today. They must be washed with the blood of Christ and that only comes through believing in Him, and asking Him to be your Lord and Savior.

Now asking Jesus to be your Lord and Savior is more than just getting your ticket punched for the train ride to heaven. It means that you start to live a life that honors Him, in fact that you deny yourself and allow Him to control your life. In other words you turn from your sin.

You might be convinced that people cannot give up homosexuality, that is a popular belief now days. But it is not true. It might be true if they try on their own, but it is not true if they commit their lives to Christ and allow Him to change them. This is true of any and all sin. You might want to visit a site and read some of the testimonies on it:

I will agree with you that homosexuals are often treated worse than people who commit other sins, but have you ever asked yourself why? I will give you a couple of reason I believe this happens. In the last 20 years (your whole life time) homosexuals have decided to "come out of the closet" so to speak. What they mean by that is that they will no longer hide their sin. Okay, as much as I hate the sin (all sin) I do understand that people who are un-saved will continue to commit them. However, what I don't understand is the fact that it is not just 'not hiding' their sin that they want, they want to flaunt it in everyone's face.

Here is an example that happened in the town where I live. There as a male teacher who decided that he was going to 'come out' and he did so in front of the students he was teaching. Many area pastors, parents, etc... were very upset and lobbied to get him fired. People on the other side said that they were being in tolerant and should show more Christian love. Even some Christians claim this. Here is my stand, I think he should have been fired. But allow me to explain. If a teacher came to his or her class and announced that they were a chronic liar, or an adulterer, or a child molester, or addicted to pornography and that they were coming out because they were not ashamed of it, then I think they should be fired also.

We would not put up with a heterosexual teacher bringing their sexual life into the classroom, so why should we put up with a homosexual teacher doing so? I will agree with you there is a double standard, but not as you seem to think there is. If you dare to speak out against the sin of homosexuality you are labeled as intolerant. Yet they can bash Christians all you want and no one cares.

Here is another point. You said you did not know anyone who wanted to be homosexual and therefore you do not think they have a choice. If that is true then why do they publicly announce that they are on a recruiting campaign? What does a recruiting campaign have to do with something no one chooses in the first place? Their own rhetoric shows there is more to this then a poor soul who can't help themselves.

You said one thing I will agree with you about, on the surface anyway. You said that anyone who is a sinner (includes all of us) and puts their faith in Jesus Christ should have the right to live without being hated by the church. I would agree with that if that person is attempting to live a normal life. However, if a person claims to have put their faith in Jesus Christ and then continues to sin, I have to wonder if they were really saved.(1 John 3:9-10 NIV) No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God. {10} This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not a child of God; nor is anyone who does not love his brother. But even so, they should not be hated by the church. That does not mean the church should open their arms as far as serving in the church.

Every church should open their arms to all sinners who are seeking and they should minister to them. That is not the same thing as accepting them. If a person is not living a Christian life then they should not be allowed to teach or lead groups or serve in the church. Again that goes for the liar, drunk, the adulterer and the homosexual. Once that person has been washed, sanctified, and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God, as Paul says, then they should be treated just like any other Christian.

I know I got a little long winded but I wanted to make sure you understood my position, since it appeared that you did not understand it from your message.

Take care and feel free to write back any time.



E-Mail Ralph (whose comments are in green)

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