Thoughts to Ponder

The Emerging Church Apostasy

As in all my Thoughts to Ponder articles; I am not trying to question any individual's salvation (their own words can testify for or against them), nor am I trying to be provocative, nor am I trying to paint with too broad a brush, but I am trying sound a warning, to be a watchman and do what I believe God has called me to do. I have often warned that I believe the apostasy is upon us and that we are in the last days.

2 Thes. 2:1-4 Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, [2] that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come. [3] Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, [4] who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

One of the signs of the apostasy is that the true message of Jesus Christ and His sacrificial death and resurrection will be called into question. People will turn to a new gospel, one that makes them feel good, but does not condemn their actions or lifestyles.

2 Tim. 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, [4] and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

2 Tim. 3:16-17 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, [17] so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.

In this article I will quote often so that you can read what these teachers are saying from their own mouths. I have sat under the teachings of one of these people and I must tell you that not everything they say sounds like heresy. Not everything they say is wrong, their message often sounds doctrinally correct on the surface.

I spent about 6 months in a church under one of these pastors and until the very end didn't hear much that I would disagree with. He had just started his church, which has since become a mega-church. I began to hear things that could be taken one of several ways, but that bothered me. I tried to approach this pastor and talk to him about his beliefs, but he was not open to dialog, even though in that 6 months we had become friends. My wife and I felt the Spirit telling us it was time to leave this church and we did. It was shortly after we left that we began to see what this pastor really believed. As I researched this article I found that this pastor didn't have a change of doctrine or heart after starting the church, in fact he and his wife both say that their change came when they were still in college!

So I am left to believe that the doctrinally sound sermons I heard in the beginning were just window dressing, to get people in the doors and make a successful church, before showing his true beliefs. I am saddened to have come to that conclusion, because I found this man to be very likable. I enjoyed his company, his sermons, his leadership, his personality. Sadly, this is exactly what makes these false teachers so dangerous. They are not fire breathing Satanist, they are often very subtle in their teachings and people without a strong foundation and understanding of God's word can be easily fooled and mislead.

I think it is important to start out with an understanding of what we are discussing. So to lay that ground work, I will quote from two online sources about what the emerging/emergent church is and what it believes:

The emerging, or emergent, church movement takes its name from the idea that as culture changes, a new church should emerge in response. In this case, it is a response by various church leaders to the current era of post-modernism. Although post-modernism began in the 1950s, the church didn't really seek to conform to its tenets until the 1990s. Post-modernism can be thought of as a dissolution of "cold, hard fact" in favor of "warm, fuzzy subjectivity." The emerging / emergent church movement can be thought of the same way.

The emerging / emergent church movement falls into line with basic post-modernist thinking-it is about experience over reason, subjectivity over objectivity, spirituality over religion, images over words, outward over inward, feelings over truth. These are reactions to modernism and are thought to be necessary in order to actively engage contemporary culture. This movement is still fairly new, though, so there is not yet a standard method of "doing" church amongst the groups choosing to take a post-modern mindset. In fact, the emerging church rejects any standard methodology for doing anything. Therefore, there is a huge range of how far groups take a post-modernist approach to Christianity. Some groups go only a little way in order to impact their community for Christ, and remain biblically sound. Most groups, however, embrace post-modernist thinking, which eventually leads to a very liberal, loose translation of the Bible. This, in turn, lends to liberal doctrine and theology.

For example, because experience is valued more highly than reason, truth becomes relative. Relativism opens up all kinds of problems, as it destroys the standard that the Bible contains absolute truth, negating the belief that biblical truth can be absolute. If the Bible is not our source for absolute truth, and personal experience is allowed to define and interpret what truth actually is, a saving faith in Jesus Christ is rendered meaningless.

Another area where the emerging / emergent church movement has become anti-biblical is its focus on ecumenism. Unity among people coming from different religious and ethnic backgrounds and diversity in the expression of corporate worship are a strong focus of the emergent church movement. Being ecumenical means that compromise is taking place, and this results in a watering down of Scripture in favor of not offending an apostate. This is in direct opposition to passages such as Revelation 2:14-17, Jesus' letter to the church of Pergamum, in which the Church is warned against tolerating those who teach false doctrine. (Quoted from: http://www.gotquestions.org/emerging-church-emergent.html)

The following are the beliefs/teachings behind the Emerging Church:

•The world is radically changing and the church must radically change with it
•Since the Church has been culture bound for so long we must reexamine and question every belief and practice in the Church, finding new ways to define
•We have no foundation for any beliefs, therefore we cannot know absolute truth
•Since we cannot know absolute truth, we can only experience what is "true" for our communities
•Since we cannot know absolute truth we cannot be dogmatic about doctrine
•Since we cannot know absolute truth we cannot be dogmatic about moral standards
•Since we cannot know absolute truth, dogmatic preaching must give way to a dialogue between people of all beliefs
•Since propositional truth is uncertain, spiritual feeling and social action make up the only reliable substance of Christianity
•To capture a sacred feeling we should reconnect with ancient worship forms
•Since sublime feeling is experienced through outward forms, we should utilize art forms in our worship
•Through conversation with them, "outsiders" will become part of our community, and then be able to understand and believe what we teach
•All are welcome to join the "conversation" as long as they behave in a kind and open-minded manner.
•The ultimate goal is to make the world a better place

The accomplishing of all of the above is seen by those in the movement as evidence that the Church is emerging to reach the culture, adapting to it. Critics of the movement see these things as signs that the Church is submerging into the culture, being absorbed by it. (Quoted from http://www.apologeticsindex.org/291-emerging-church-teachings)

So now you should have a good idea of what the emerging church movement is all about. One of the first things you should realize is that they [the emerging church movement] question the authority of God's word. Once you have thrown out that God breathed authority, well you have no true foundation to stand on and it isn't surprising some of the false doctrines that can then arise.

This brings me to the point I try to make in all my articles, don't take my word for anything, don't take anyone's word for anything, check all things against God's word! Be Bereans! God has not left us on our own to figure out what the truth is; He gave us His word, we need to hide it in our hearts and know it with our minds and teach it to our children so that they are not easily deceived.

Not all churches are fully emergent, some are leaning and some have just accepted bits and pieces of this false doctrine. If your church no longer preaches from God's word as the inerrant word of God, then you should be aware that at the very least they are leaning towards this apostasy! There are even some very strong Bible believing, Bible preaching churches out there, but they are getting harder and harder to find. You and you alone are responsibly before God for what you believe and what your children are taught!

Many of the following quotes were taken from the book Faith Undone by Roger Oakland. If you have not read Faith Undone you should pick up a copy and read it cover to cover. The book was a great help in writing this article, since otherwise I would have had to spend many hours finding quotes to show what this movement is all about.

It is a glorious destiny to be a member of the human race, … If only they [people] could all see themselves as they really are … I suppose the big problem would be that we would fall down and worship each other…. At the center of our being is a  point of nothingness which is untouched by sin and by illusions, a point of pure truth… This little point … is the pure glory of God in us. It is in everyone. (Thomas Merton, Conjectures of a Guilty Bystander)

Today I personally believe that while Jesus came to open the door to God's house, all human beings can walk through that door, whether they know about Jesus or not. Today I see it as my call to help every person claim his or her own way to God. (Henri Nouwen, Sebbaticl Journey)

The God who dwells in our inner sanctuary is also the God who dwells in the inner sanctuary of each human being. (Henri Nouwen, Sebbaticl Journey)

There is no God apart from the world, nor a world apart from God … In the highest mystical ecstasy the Ego experiences that it has become God… Why not? … there ceases to be a difference between the world and myself. "That I am God." Why not? (Martine Buber, Ecstatic Confessions: The Heart of Mysticism)

Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. The next verse is significant: "The land produced vegetation." Notice that it doesn't say, "God produced vegetation." God empowers the land to do something. He gives it the capacity to produce fruit and seeds. God empowers creation to make more. (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

In my case intimacy with Christ has developed gradually over the years, primarily through what Catholic mystics call "centering prayer." Each morning, as soon as I wake up, I take time - sometimes as much as half an hour - to center myself on Jesus. I say his name over and over again to drive back the 101 things that begin to clutter up my mind the minute I open my eyes. Jesus is my mantra, as some would say. (Tony Campolo, Letters to a Young Evangelical)

[C]hurches that place a greater emphasis on the sermon and the personality of the preacher, rather than the Eucharist and the office of minister, will have a harder time adjusting to an equal or nearly equal interchange of preachers. (Larry Osborne, Sharing the Pulpit)

[T]he faithful administration of the Eucharist is a certain key to renewal in the Church… If the United Methodist Church and its smaller partners are to experience renewal, we must also allow the Holy Spirit proper place in worship, ministry, and pastoral care. Done with theological integrity, this must be done by re-examining the Eucharist … Then, and only then, will we be able to once again effectively lead the way to transformation for the sake of Jesus Christ. (Keith Howard McIlwain, The Eucharist as Key to Pastoral Care and Renewal in the Church)

This is ecumenism; accepting of all beliefs. Catholic doctrine, Eastern mysticism, and as we will see, Hindu beliefs, Muslim beliefs, Buddhist beliefs, no one is wrong, all carry the same weight and authority.

Here we are, now poised either on the brink of destruction greater than the world has ever seen - a destruction which will cripple planet Earth forever and release only the few to go on - or on the threshold of global co-creation wherein each person on Earth will be attracted to participate in his or her own evolution to godliness. (Barbra Marx Hubbard, The Revelation)

In the twinkling of an eye, we are all changed by this experience. It is a mass metanoia, a shared spiritual experience for the human race, a peaceful second coming of the divine in us as us. (Barbra Marx Hubbard, The Revelation)

The following is a description of fundamentalist Christians:
[P]eople who are always saying negative things about the world, are anti-gay, take the whole Bible literally, are card-carrying Republicans, are pro-Israel, read end-times novels, and endorse snake handling and fire-and-brimstone preaching. They think of King-James, finger pointing, teetotaling, vengeful people who credit God for using natural disasters to punish people for sin, and who use Christian jargon and are arrogant and unloving toward anyone but themselves. (Dan Kimball, They Like Jesus but Not the Church)

Notice how easily people who literally believe the Bible and support Israel are made to be the enemy of the movement?

I must add, though, that I don't believe making disciples must equal making adherents to the Christian religion. It may be advisable in many (not all!) circumstances to help people become followers of Jesus and remain within their Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish contexts. - Brian McLaren (Brian McLaren, A Generous Orthodoxy)

I'm not talking about a religion this morning. You may be Catholic or Protestant or Buddhist or Baptist or Muslim or Mormon or Jewish or you may have no religion at all. I'm not interested in your religious background. Because God did not create the universe for us to have religion. (Rick Warren at the 2005 United Nations Prayer Breakfast, September 2005)

John 14:6 Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

For me, the beginning of sharing my faith with people began by throwing out Christianity and embracing Christian spirituality, a nonpolitical mysterious system that can be experienced but not explained. (Donald Miller, Blue Like Jazz)

Several international missions organizations including Youth With a Mission (YWAM), are testing a new approach to missionary work in areas where Christianity is unwelcome. A March 24, 2000, Charisma News Service report said some missionaries are now making converts but are allowing them to "hold on to many of their traditional religious beliefs and practices" so as to refrain from offending others in their culture. (Youth with a Mission Experiments with New, Unscriptural Missions Strategy" Foundation, Watchman's Trumpet)

"Messianic Muslims" who continue to read the Koran, visit the mosque and say their daily prayers but accept Christ as their Savior, are the products of the strategy, which is being tried in several countries, according to Youth With a Mission (YWAM), one of the organizations involved. (Andy Butcher, "Radical Missionary Approach Produces 'Messianic Muslims' Retaining Islamic Identity - Charisma News Service)

They [the new converts] continued a life of following the Islamic requirements, including mosque attendance, fasting and Koranic reading, besides getting together as a fellowship of Muslims who acknowledge Christ as the source of God's mercy for them. (Andy Butcher, "Radical Missionary Approach Produces 'Messianic Muslims' Retaining Islamic Identity - Charisma News Service)

Her husband and son have been believers in Christ for eight years. They both had studied in Christian schools and learned of Christ. The husband's father had a vision of Christ, and one brother also is a non-baptised believer. The husband does not join his wife in coming to Church, but he occasionally joins her for the big public meetings. They do not have family devotions, but worship Jesus along with the Hindu gods in their home. Their approach to the Hindu festivals is to carry them out but to think of God, not Jesus specifically. (Herbert Hoefer, Churchless Christianity)

All paths lead to God, so why force people to follow Christ? As long as they claim Him as their savior, who cares that their lives don't testify to that fact! Who cares if they, by their actions, deny Christ in their lives?

Luke 12:8-9 "I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. [9] But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God."

The emerging church movement has come to believe that the ultimate context of the spiritual aspirations of a follower of Jesus Christ is not Christianity but rather the kingdom of God. …to believe that God is limited to it [Christianity] would be an attempt to manage God. If one holds that Christ is confined to Christianity, one has chosen a god that is not sovereign. Soren Kierkegaar argued that the moment one decides to become a Christian, one is liable to idolatry. (Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones, An Emergent Manifesto of Hope)

Is our religion [Christianity] the only one that understands the true meaning of life? or does God place his truth in others too? Well, God decides, and not us. The gospel is not our gospel, but the gospel of the kingdom of God, and what belongs to the kingdom of God cannot be hijacked by Christianity. (Doug Pagitt and Tony Jones, An Emergent Manifesto of Hope)

Too many theories of the atonement assume that by one single high priestly act of self-sacrifice Christ saved the world. (Harry Emerson Fosdick, Dear Mr. Brown)

You will see more quotes that show that the emerging church doesn't believe that Christ's sacrifice saved us from our sins. Wouldn't you call that denying the Lord who bought them? I certainly think Paul would.

We're rediscovering Christianity as an Eastern religion, as a way of life. … The Bells started questioning their assumptions about the Bible itself-"discovering the Bible as a human product," as Rob puts it, rather than the product of divine fiat. "The Bible is still in the center for us," Rob says, "but it's a different kind of center. We want to embrace mystery, rather than conquer it." (Rob Bell, The Emergent Mystique an article in Christianity Today by Andy Crouch posted 11/01/2004)

"The Bible is a collection of stories that teach us about what it looks like when God is at work through actual people. The Bible has the authority it does only because it contains stories about people interacting with the God who has all authority" (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

"When people use the word hell, what do they mean? They mean a place, an event, a situation absent of how God desires things to be. Famine, debt, oppression, loneliness, despair, death, slaughter--they are all hell on earth. Jesus' desire for his followers is that they live in such a way that they bring heaven to earth. What's disturbing is when people talk more about hell after this life than they do about Hell here and now. As a Christian, I want to do what I can to resist hell coming to earth." (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

"Heaven is full of forgiven people. Hell is full of forgiven people. Heaven is full of people God loves, whom Jesus died for. Hell is full of forgiven people God loves, whom Jesus died for. The difference is how we choose to live, which story we choose to live in, which version of reality we trust. Ours or God's." (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

"I don't follow Jesus because I think Christianity is the best religion. I follow Jesus because he leads me into ultimate reality. He teaches me to live in tune with how reality is. When Jesus said, 'No one comes to the Father except through me', he was saying that his way, his words, his life is our connection to how things truly are at the deepest levels of existence. For Jesus then, the point of religion is to help us connect with ultimate reality, God." (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

"So this reality, this forgiveness, this reconciliation, is true for everybody. Paul insisted that when Jesus died on the cross he was reconciling 'all things, in heaven and on earth,' to God. This reality then isn't something we make true about ourselves by doing something. It is already true. Our choice is to live in this new reality or cling to a reality of our own making." (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

"Who does Peter lose faith in? Not Jesus; he is doing fine. Peter loses faith in himself. Peter loses faith that he can do what his rabbi is doing. If the rabbi calls you to be his disciple, then he believes that you can actually be like him. As we read the stories of Jesus' life with his talmidim, his disciples, what do we find frustrates him to no end? When his disciples lose faith in themselves... Notice how many places in the accounts of Jesus' life he gets frustrated with his disciples. Because they are incapable? No, because of how capable they are. He sees what they could be and could do, and when they fall short it provokes him to no end. It isn't their failure that's the problem, it's their greatness. They don't realize what they are capable of... God has an amazingly high view of people. God believes that people are capable of amazing things. I've been told I need to believe in Jesus. Which is a good thing. But what I'm learning is that Jesus believes in me... God has faith in me." (Rob Bell, Velvet Elvis)

Faith is important, but Christianity has been wrong all along, we need to have faith in OURSELVES! That is heresy!

[O]ne of the huge problems is the traditional understanding of hell. Because if the cross is in line with Jesus' teaching then - I won't say, the only, and I certainly won't say even the primary - but a primary meaning of the cross is that the kingdom of God doesn't come like the kingdoms of this world, by inflicting violence and coercing people. But that the kingdom of God come through suffering and willing, voluntary sacrifice. But in an ironic way, the doctrine of hell basically says, no, that's not really true. That in the end, God gets His way through coercion and violence and intimidation and domination, just like every other kingdom does. The cross isn't the center then. The cross is almost a distraction and false advertising for God. (Interview with Leif Hansen, with Brian McLaren - The Bleeding Purple Podcast)

And I heard one well-known Christian leader, who - I won't mention his name, just to protect his reputation. 'Cause some people would use this against him. But I heard him say it like this: The traditional understanding says that God asks of us something that God is incapable of Himself. God asks us to forgive people. But God is incapable of forgiving. God can't forgive unless He punishes somebody in place of the person He was going to forgive. God doesn't say things to you - Forgive your wife, and then go kick the dog to vent your anger. God asks you to actually forgive. And there's a certain sense that, a common understanding of the atonement presents a God who is incapable of forgiving. Unless He kicks someone else. (Interview with Leif Hansen, with Brian McLaren - The Bleeding Purple Podcast)

The Church's fixation on the death of Jesus as the universal saving act must end, and the place of the cross must be reimagined in Christian faith. Why? Because of the cult of suffering and the vindictive God behind it. (Alan Jones, Reimaging Christianity)

Believing Christ died for our sins makes us a CULT! Well anything is possible once you throw the Bible away as the authoritative word of God.

The other thread of just criticism addresses the suggestion implicit in the cross that Jesus' sacrifice was to appease an angry God. Penal substitution [the cross] was the name of this vile doctrine. (Alan Jones, Reimaging Christianity)

This is a typical patriarchal notion of God. He is the God of Noah who sees people deep in sin, repents that He made them and resolves to destroy them. He is the God of the desert who sends snakes to bite His people because they murmured against Him. He is the God of David who practically decimates a people… He is the God who exacts the last drop of blood from His Son, so that His just anger, evoked by sin, may be appeased. This God whose moods alternate between graciousness and fierce anger… This God does not exist. (William Shannon, Silence of Fire)

Were you to talk to that fundamentalist preacher, he doubtless would insist that you must believe in the "substitutionary" theory of atonement - namely, that Jesus suffered as a substitute for us punishment due us for our sins. But can you imagine a modern courtroom in a civilized country where an innocent man would be deliberately punished for another man's crime? … [S]ubstitutionary atonement … came a long way down in history in many a penal system. But now it is a precivilized barbarity; no secular court would tolerate the idea for a moment; only in certain belated theologies is it retained as an explanation of our Lord's death… Christ's sacrificial life and death are too sacred to be so misrepresented. (Harry Emerson Fosdick, Dear Mr. Brown)

Not only denying the Lord who bought them, but denying that He bought anyone!

I let go of the notion that the Bible is a divine product. I learned that it is a human cultural product, the product of two ancient communities, biblical Israel and early Christianity. As such, it contained their understandings and affirmations, not statements coming directly or somewhat directly from God… I realized that whatever "divine revelation" and the "inspiration of the Bible" meant (if they meant anything), they did not mean that the Bible was a divine product with divine authority. (Marcus Borg, The God We Never Knew)

Jesus almost certainly was not born of a virgin, did not think of himself as the Son of God, and did not see his purpose as dying for the sins of the world. (Marcus Borg, The God We Never Knew)

Of course all those places in the Bible where Jesus called Himself the Son of God, all those places where He said He was going to die for our sins, all those places that the Bible claims He was born of a virgin are, well, just a human cultural product of the time when they were written.

To think that the central meaning of Easter [resurrection] depends upon something spectacular happening to Jesus' corpse misses the point of the Easter message and risks trivializing the story. To link Easter primarily to our hope of an afterlife, as if our post-death existence depends on God having transformed the corpse of Jesus, is to reduce the story to a politically-domesticated yearning for our survival beyond death. (Marcus Borg, Easter About Life, Not Death - Washington Post/Newsweek - On Faith column, April 7, 2004)

Jesus' death didn't mean anything, so why would His resurrection mean anything?

The New Spirituality is a global movement to create the space for humanity to experience its natural impulse toward the divine in a way which makes no one else wrong for the way in which they are doing it. (Rich Warren, The Angel Stadium Declaration)

All paths lead to the same place, so what is so special about Jesus anyway?

The reason He has not come again in that the needed work has not been done by His followers in all countries. His coming is largely dependent, as we shall later see, upon the establishing of right human relations. [T]he church has hindered … and has not helped because of its fanatical zeal to make "Christians" of all peoples and not followers of Christ. It has emphasized theological doctrine, and not love. (Kevin Eckstrom, "Lutheran leader calls for an ecumenical council to address growing biblical fundamentalism" - Religious News Service)

The whole world has to hold hands and sing with one voice before Jesus can come back.

Luke 21:7-28 "Teacher," they asked, "when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are about to take place?"
    [8] He replied: "Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am he,' and, 'The time is near.' Do not follow them. [9] When you hear of wars and revolutions, do not be frightened. These things must happen first, but the end will not come right away."
    [10] Then he said to them: "Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. [11] There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven.
    [12] "But before all this, they will lay hands on you and persecute you. They will deliver you to synagogues and prisons, and you will be brought before kings and governors, and all on account of my name. [13] This will result in your being witnesses to them. [14] But make up your mind not to worry beforehand how you will defend yourselves. [15] For I will give you words and wisdom that none of your adversaries will be able to resist or contradict. [16] You will be betrayed even by parents, brothers, relatives and friends, and they will put some of you to death. [17] All men will hate you because of me. [18] But not a hair of your head will perish. [19] By standing firm you will gain life.
    [20] "When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its desolation is near. [21] Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. [22] For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of all that has been written. [23] How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. [24] They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.
    [25] "There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. [26] Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. [27] At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. [28] When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."

I keep forgetting that it doesn't matter what the Bible says, because it has no God given authority! Woe is me, what is truth then? Oh, that's right there is no absolute truth!

If your church is part of the emerging church movement, then run don't walk to the nearest exit and never look back. The world will one day hold hands and sing in unison, and worship the anti-Christ. Many will be fooled because they will have no foundation to stand on, and no belief that the Bible is the true word of God, so all they will have is false teachers to tell them what to believe. Don't allow yourself or your children to be one of these fooled and lost individuals. Guard your soul and your doctrine, the time is short.

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